tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post6432653081002563126..comments2024-03-24T03:22:44.528-06:00Comments on The Cold Spot: Fuck OutliningTom Piccirillihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11342750725233851622noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-59264930751650371872009-03-22T17:38:00.000-06:002009-03-22T17:38:00.000-06:00I hate outlining and it's a relief to see so many ...I hate outlining and it's a relief to see so many other people struggle with it.<BR/>However, I'm constantly outlining in my head. I usually do a few weeks of 'mental outlining' before I even start. I'm usually outlining my next piece while I'm writing the current one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-61234565054133506682009-03-06T08:37:00.000-07:002009-03-06T08:37:00.000-07:00I only need to know where it is going. How to get...I only need to know where it is going. How to get there is something that the story will take care of for me.Jamie Eyberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05875759697016701358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-5289508152598003262009-03-06T01:32:00.000-07:002009-03-06T01:32:00.000-07:00I write like I wrote songs. Nice riff, nice chords...I write like I wrote songs. Nice riff, nice chords, nice title -let's see what I can do with this... I outlined one story recently and it stank!Paul D Brazillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12881642426845398389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-67246780342302074772009-03-05T20:16:00.000-07:002009-03-05T20:16:00.000-07:00I just write stories but I can't even think about ...I just write stories but I can't even think about a story consciously until I sit in front of the computer. If I try to think about it, it seems stale when I write it. I guess this can only work well in short pieces though.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-56731291627255469802009-03-03T09:26:00.000-07:002009-03-03T09:26:00.000-07:00Brillant/creative writers don't need to outline. ...Brillant/creative writers don't need to outline. Most of the time when someone outlines, you can see the ending a mile away.<BR/><BR/>An example of brilliant/creative writing is The Coldest Mile. To write that story with the plot twists you did, without outlining, proves you not only are one of the more entertaining authors on the planet, you just may be the most talented. Unless of course you really do have superpowers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-24581475571915219232009-03-01T16:12:00.000-07:002009-03-01T16:12:00.000-07:00Right in the eyes!Right in the eyes!Tom Piccirillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342750725233851622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-44940695628276930772009-03-01T16:11:00.000-07:002009-03-01T16:11:00.000-07:00It's like you're reading my mind. Fuck outlining....It's like you're reading my mind. Fuck outlining. Fuck it hard.<BR/><BR/>VGVictor Gischlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04503919715676328059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-31435147485282679142009-03-01T12:27:00.000-07:002009-03-01T12:27:00.000-07:00Where's the apostrophe in that^^ ?Where's the apostrophe in that^^ ?ronnochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846138337588291636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-57719717817014143432009-03-01T12:25:00.000-07:002009-03-01T12:25:00.000-07:00I don't write, but fuck outlining. It requires yo...I don't write, but fuck outlining. It requires you to think ahead-wheres the fun in that? Writing off of a outline sounds boring to me.ronnochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846138337588291636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-92092306612827180132009-03-01T06:25:00.000-07:002009-03-01T06:25:00.000-07:00I was asked to write an outline of my novel a coup...I was asked to write an outline of my novel a couple years ago and I hated every fucking minute of the task. It felt so artificial. I threw the thing in the trash. Now that I'm teaching, I have students ask me about outlining. I tell them if it works for them, fine, but it's too restricting for me. I like that you used the word "organic" to describe your writing process; it's the same word I use over and over in my class.Patrick Shawn Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14832860010935241958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-70959039766397975042009-02-28T23:24:00.000-07:002009-02-28T23:24:00.000-07:00I can't do it. When I'm writing something that I'v...I can't do it. When I'm writing something that I've out lined it never works. The words seem forced and lack any real passion. And so what if you have to revise further once the original draft is done? (Yes I just looked through the ridiculous number of posts on your facebook page.) chances are the outline is going to change a long with the book as you re-write.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06827652636843928373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-81008497769290953172009-02-28T19:48:00.000-07:002009-02-28T19:48:00.000-07:00Evan Hunter/Ed McBain told me in an interview that...Evan Hunter/Ed McBain told me in an interview that what he frequently did was get forty, fifty pages into it so that he knew the characters and the milieu and then he's start scratching out four or five chapters ahead. I hate outlining and am terrible at it.Ed Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06126267358266480356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-88848562568194635022009-02-28T19:43:00.000-07:002009-02-28T19:43:00.000-07:00I've just started writing and I'm grappling with t...I've just started writing and I'm grappling with this very problem. I'm finding just sitting down and letting it all flow is great but I'll need to do some serious rewriting. Most of that is probably my inexperience but I think a basic character outline would have cut down on some of it.<BR/><BR/>From my limited experience I'd say writers that outline are trying to cut corners on rewriting. I don't know that there is anything wrong with it, but it may take some of the excitement of discovery out of the process. Just my two cents.Jacob Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07065333777660021975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8642040507586245737.post-18592180355366951332009-02-28T19:05:00.000-07:002009-02-28T19:05:00.000-07:00I've published 60 or 70 novels (hey, who's countin...I've published 60 or 70 novels (hey, who's counting?), and I've outlined only a couple. It just doesn't work for me. Sometimes I wish it did.mybillcriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02350478005243505108noreply@blogger.com